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Rover ([personal profile] synthsized) wrote in [community profile] irisnetwork2019-11-10 06:49 pm

un: xspire

At what point does something get the right to be called a person? What do they need to do to deserve that?

Has anyone ever thought about it?
silksoul: (⚔ who sold their lives to a dream?)

un: araneae

[personal profile] silksoul 2019-11-11 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
[ Oh boy. ]

Personhood isn't something you earn or deserve through effort. It's inherent.
medaling: (tajadoru (12))

un: talonted

[personal profile] medaling 2019-11-11 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
a person dies

something that isn't a person just ceases to be
hawkwardness: (the view from below)

un: ornithology

[personal profile] hawkwardness 2019-11-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe when they think of themselves as a person. Isn't that enough?
Edited 2019-11-11 01:25 (UTC)
deuteranope: (mav141)

un: weaseling

[personal profile] deuteranope 2019-11-11 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
[huh, that sure is a question, isn't it

...]


yo skynet, this you?
imitationsoul: (She said)

un: werther

[personal profile] imitationsoul 2019-11-11 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Lots of people have thought about it. Philosophers have been around for a good while, you know?

But if you ask me, a person is an entity that can hurt and be hurt - just for the pleasure of pain or inflicting it.
schmott_guy: (Well. That goes without saying)

un: madlad

[personal profile] schmott_guy 2019-11-11 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
There's a million definitions about what makes a person that involve metaphysical variables like souls and love, but that's not much of an answer for a scientist. I've always felt that if you can discuss abstract concepts with it then it might as well be a person.
aibolition: (seventy three)

UN: Usernamehere

[personal profile] aibolition 2019-11-11 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
A person is whatever some jackass decides is a person at the time. You can think you're a person but if some asshole sees you as a monster or tool to use, that's that. You might as well think of yourself as whatever you want. You could even be a bigger freak and call yourself an animal. Freedom of choice is fun like that.
trademark_skull: (Annoyance)

UN: deltadeath

[personal profile] trademark_skull 2019-11-11 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Living things are supposed to have souls. So I guess that's one distinction if someone is a person or not.

[Probably.]
conquerorofwaves: (you're a weirdo)

UN: SevenVoyages

[personal profile] conquerorofwaves 2019-11-11 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
If you can think, if you can feel emotions - and those things are real despite what anyone says, that's a person.

Screw anyone that says you're not a person because you don't look right, or don't have the right-looking soul, or what the hell ever. So, I guess? You do you, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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un: jaybird

[personal profile] nor_iron_bars 2019-11-11 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
i swear to god i figured out the answer to this one last time i was high, but then i forgot like two seconds later.

if i'm gonna be honest, i got no clue how you'd tell for sure.
could fuck around and see if you come up with a soul, i guess?
or do a brainscan.
but honestly if they might be a person it's probably better to just assume they are.
worst-case scenario, you get scammed by a really good chatbot.
best-case scenario, you avoid committing war crimes.
it's just smarter to play the odds there.
Edited 2019-11-11 02:07 (UTC)
preppedandloaded: (033)

un: hazel

[personal profile] preppedandloaded 2019-11-11 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know someone had to deserve being a person.
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un: himawari

[personal profile] taiyounoyou 2019-11-11 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's something that you have to earn or deserve. It's just something that is?
heromedal: (<.<)

UN: Epicyon

[personal profile] heromedal 2019-11-12 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
'Person' is non-quantifiable and unfalsifiable. The question doesn't make sense in itself.
nevernoaction: (Default)

UN: Stormflower

[personal profile] nevernoaction 2019-11-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I would think they have to be self aware. I haven't given it that much thought.